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Positively qualified to roll with the punches
By ANNE SIMPSON
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In these weeks of waiting for normal politics to resume, much is being made of the electorate's toxic loathing of cheap political point-scoring and personality trashing. And, one after the other, the candidates in May's election pledge to improve their party's manners and do better. Despite that resolve, however, one question still nags: is there really room in the executive suites of modern politics for a Mr Nice Guy?

Enter Nicol Stephen, deputy First Minister in the last administration and leader of the Liberal Democrats, a man with the eager, evangelical smile of someone who has seen the light and now strives for our mass conversion to the gospel of renewables.

Yet does Stephen possess the necessary killer instinct? At 47, he is still boyish in appearance and by far the best dresser of all the party leaders. But we need to know if he is nasty enough to succeed in what is often a dirty game.

Right on cue, Stephen bares his teeth - but the grin is benign rather than sneering. "I don't think I'm a nasty person," he says, immedi-ately dismissing the notion that the Alan Sugar school of brutal ambition also finds a natural home in politics. "I've heard that sort of suggestion before, and I've talked about it with two of my close friends, one of whom believes that if you're not nasty you won't get on, and the other who passionately believes in the opposite."

And who of the two is the more successful? "Actually, both have succeeded in their different ways. But the one who believes in being nasty, well, I don't think he is, in fact. There's a lot of bluster and roughness, but no real nastiness."

Yet in the peculiar world of politics, it is an inconvenient truth that some of the most memorable figures are those accomplished in firing insults like poison darts. Stephen is never slow to condemn this adversarial relish, and argues instead that if politics is to win any measure of public esteem it must regain some honour and adhere to decent rules. On the other hand, there are critics, notably The Herald's columnist Ian Bell, who detect double standards here, citing Stephen's readiness to engage in verbal abuse when it suits him.

But whose insults hurt most: those of colleagues or the media? Bell's ire has been particu-larly exercised by Stephen's insistence he will have no truck with any Nationalist referendum on independence unless and until the SNP can pass his 50%-of-the-electorate test.

In Bell's opinion, Stephen is both over-promoted - a reference to the Lab-Lib coalition which elevated him to deputy First Minister - and "the serial adulterer of Scottish politics - neither liberal, nor democratic, nor decent".

Tough stuff. So, how does Stephen react? "Well, some of Ian's insults are legend." And, smiling, he leaves it at that. But even a Mr Nice Guy can't afford a sensitive skin, and a few minutes later in our conversation, Stephen mentions that from the earliest he learned jibes were part of the currency of politics. "I was 22 when I was elected to Grampian Regional Council, and at council meetings when the gavel was banged to announce the adjournment for lunch and a drink, one of the Conservative councillors would shout out: And milk for the boy.' So, you must just get used to all the taunts and try not to dish them out. But I always thought opening the bar at lunchtime was a bad idea."

Of course, in the eyes of the media, that last aside could easily be damned as priggish. "To some media, maybe. But there is a gulf between the attitude and approach of the media and the attitude and approach of ordinary people. I don't think the generally male, middle-aged media we have in this country represent the views of the average voter." The people Stephen meets, he says, tell him repeatedly they want politicians to be more positive, and stop all the name-calling.

"Now, somebody - surely - has got to stand up for that in this campaign, and mean it." Presumably that somebody is him? "Absolutely. We are being positive by focusing on policies and issues - on young people, on Scotland's renewables revolution and on improved health care. But we also criticise the Punch and Judy negativity."

This was evident, Stephen says, when eminent Scottish businessman Sir George Mathewson declared his backing for the SNP. Tony Blair immediately accused Mathewson of self-indulgence and of promoting an "absurd" argument. "And then Alex Salmond called the Prime Minister ignorant'. So, you can see the downward spiral."

Scotland needs to be more international, more positive. I dislike it when we’re small-minded and too introspective

Were the LibDems approached for a comment? "We were, but the only comment we made was that George Mathewson had been a supporter of the SNP since the 1970s, so his endorsement now was no great surprise. But we don't come in on the back of negativity."

Stephen was born and raised in Aberdeen, where his parents were teachers and where he went on to read law at university. "My ambition was never to be a lawyer, but legal training is very good for many careers."

As far back as the 1960s, he found politics compelling. "I remember being inspired by Jo Grimond. I remember John F Kennedy's assassination and I remember watching Churchill's funeral. By the time I was a teenager, I was already engrossed in general election and by-election results, and programmes about the budget."

This is beginning to sound like the young life and times of William Hague. Stephen laughs. "My grandfather, on my father's side, was a great Conservative, and around the time of one of the two elections in 1974 we were having a big political discussion. He was backing Ed-ward Heath and he said: Your argument seems very well rehearsed. Where are you getting all this from?' I told him I had written away for a copy of the Liberal Party manifesto."

Stephen, who has four children ranging in age from three to 11, places much emphasis on the need to listen seriously to young people's opinions. "The young are passionate about big issues - Make Poverty History, climate change, the war in Iraq - and we must find ways of engaging with them, giving them a say and a sense of involvement. And Scotland itself needs to be more inter- national, more positive. I dislike it when we're small-minded and too introspective."

Is he suggesting we have a problem with success? "Definitely. Those who succeed here, we often talk down. When Andy Murray first reached the top 100 in the international tennis league, the question asked on the BBC was not: When can he get into the top 50, the top 10?' but: How long do you think he can last in the top 100?' It's the same in terms of business. Someone who is a big entrepreneur becomes a figure we like to knock rather than celebrate."

But 15 years ago Stephen had a sharp lesson in how fast success can disintegrate. In 1991, he won the Kincardine and Deeside by-election and, at 31, he became one of the youngest MPs at Westminster. Six months later, that distinction was over. In the 1992 general election, he lost the seat to the Conservatives by around 4000 votes.

"Within 24 hours of losing, I was offered all sorts of TV and press interviews, but why would you want to do those when you've just been kicked and rejected? A couple of weeks later, I did give an interview and I tried to be as honest as I could because you still feel pretty bleak. You're out of work, worrying about the future, and actually it's a really difficult time. Politicians who've been in that situation don't need to say much to each other to understand the feeling. A lot of politicians don't recover. An election defeat is the end of their career."

Does that memory still haunt election campaigns for Stephen? "No, it doesn't haunt me at all because defeat would never be as bad as that again. I was young then and it felt like the end of the world. Now I've got the knowledge that I've achieved a lot in politics. And I've got my family, my life beyond politics."

In journalism's political lexicons Sir Menzies Campbell is invariably described as patrician while Jim Wallace, former Scottish Liberal leader, is noted as avuncular. How would Stephen define himself? "Positive, upbeat, honest." What about "nice" or "decent"? He hesitates, remembering that aspect of the Scottish character which baulks at self-promotion. "You just don't shout from the rooftops about how fantastic you are, so I'll leave that to others," he says. And Nicol Stephen wraps a smile around that carefully ambiguous reply.

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12:08am Saturday 28th April 2007

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Posted by: james on 11:15pm Fri 27 Apr 07
Anne, you've managed to interview him without asking him how he justifies having made "the worst environmental decision since devolution began", to bulldoze the M74 Extension through Glasgow against the advice of the independent Reporter.

And you let him away with calling himself "honest" at the end.

Sorry, but this is a total patsy interview.
Posted by: JC, Glasgow on 11:15pm Fri 27 Apr 07
As deputy best wee mumpty in the world he should be dismissed along with Joke.
Posted by: J Anderson, Carrbridge on 11:16pm Fri 27 Apr 07
The only thing Nicol is passionate about is the colour of the new ministerial Mondeo ...
Posted by: Brian Blessed, Glasgow on 11:32pm Fri 27 Apr 07
Another Anne Simpson hagiography. This kind of crap should be reserved for the Daily Express or Daily Rectum.
Posted by: Craig Cockburn, Scotland on 12:14am Sat 28 Apr 07
Scotland heads for SNP victory!
Scotland heads for biggest political change in 50 years
Could be the breakup of the union after 300 years
The entire political landscape of the UK is redrawn.
First Minister and Prime Minister resign in the same month.

Yet, somehow the LibDems are still in power.

What do we do to stop this affront to democracy?
Posted by: Seannair, Oban on 12:41am Sat 28 Apr 07
We all crowd round the TV to watch the latest PPB. This one is from the Scottish (sic) Liberal Democrats

Familiar voiceover from (Champagne) Charlie Kennedy, "There is something exciting nowadays on the Scottish political scene" - pause for effect as music reaches crescendo, the anticipation is palpable- "Nicol Stephen....... "

AW naw!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Gregor Addison, Scotland on 12:44am Sat 28 Apr 07
The picture's a joke, the article's a joke, the Herald's a joke. Anne Simpson...a journalist? A Labour drone.
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 12:44am Sat 28 Apr 07
Will Alex let him keep his deputy first minister joab? Probably and why not I say.
Posted by: Alastair, Aberdeen on 12:47am Sat 28 Apr 07
I mean really! Pulleeeassseee!!. This is the stuff for Hello or OK. Cut this guff, unless you're going to do a similarly grovelling feature on Alex Salmond and the case for independence! I'm not holding my breath!
Posted by: Fiona Sinclair, Ayrshire on 1:10am Sat 28 Apr 07
I am trying to stick completely with the issues, which are being drowned out by all the bleating about the constitutional issue. I have now had enough. The bias in reportage is truly staggering.

Dear Herald - do you realise why the public wants to give NuLabour a kicking, and why it is voting tactically for the SNP? It is precisely because we are being told, ad nauseum, that politicians who are demonstrably liars and have snouts in the trough are `nice guys`.

Is Mr. Blair a nice guy to sanction the use of depleted uranium in Iraq - or was he just too disinterested in the birth defects and cancers that would afflict Iraqi children?

Is Nicol Stephen a nice guy when he took to fiddling his mortgage on his second home to pump yet more money out of the Scottish taxpayer?

Are any of these men `nice guys`, when they are prepared to nod through shoddy legislation that significantly diminishes the human rights of people with autism and their families? (It affects other groups as well) Or legislation that allows public workers to share data on `hard-working families`, even medical files, that we expect to be confidential? Or, the trump card, the Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill, otherwise known as the Abolish Parliament Bill, that will give powers of reform, repeal and creation of legislation to the government, without any requirement to gain the approval of parliament (as per the Nazi's Enabling Act), and which will be introduced, if NuLabour return to power, through a Sewell motion - I would expect the SNP to challenge its introduction on their watch.

I am definitely going to sign that petition ...
Posted by: bruce, sussex on 1:12am Sat 28 Apr 07
boak
Posted by: bruce, sussex on 1:21am Sat 28 Apr 07
SN in quote box say's "Scotland needs to be more international, more positive, I (he) dislike when we're small minded & too interospective" I take it, it'll be SNP 123 then Mr Nicol
Posted by: Tom McAlister on 2:42am Sat 28 Apr 07
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Stephen is over promoted says he.Now where have I read something along those lines before? it was history, so it was.

I remember now, yon photo of himself reminds me of a leader of men tellling folk their country needs them. Not quite sure what to do with the fingers then Nicol? Decisions, decisions.
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Posted by: donald anderson, glasgow on 8:06am Sat 28 Apr 07
This why I signed that petition. The same reason I boycotted the Daily Reptile forty yeears ago.
Posted by: Pure As, The Driven Snow on 9:19am Sat 28 Apr 07

Anne Simpson.............I read your recent atricle on Jack McConnell and thought that it didn't get any worse than this, sycophantic claptrap.
Congrats...........you proved me wrong.........this latest drivel is WORSE...............................PS Can the editor no' get ye a wee job that you can finally dae.....ur therr nae wee flower shows or wee stories fae the police courts that ye could cover. ........TRULY AWFUL !!
Posted by: Allan, Edinburgh on 9:21am Sat 28 Apr 07
Nichol Who?????
Posted by: Iain Brodie of Falsyde, HIGHLAND SEP on 10:23am Sat 28 Apr 07
Mr. Steven could start by getting real about risible targets for renewable energy and trashing our countryside with useless windfarms. He may have been a smart lawyer but he is certainly blind on science, technology and economics. Wind farm advocates are typical economic and technological illiterates.
Posted by: martin, dundee on 10:25am Sat 28 Apr 07
will the lib-dems promise to form a coalition with the biggest party or are they, along with Labour and the Tories, going to form a unionist coalition to keep the SNP out of power.
It would be useful to know BEFORE the election so we the electorate can decide who to vote for.
Posted by: Danny, Aberdeen on 10:33am Sat 28 Apr 07
Wee Nicol,he is so nice he allegedly sent someone else round to the local dentist to ask if it would be possible that he could be seen immediately as an NHS patient despite the fact he wasn't even on the waiting list,and the reason well it wasn't party policy to go private and certainly not in the week before the election.He was of course informed that it didn't matter who he was he couldn't jump the list.Nice guy eh.
Posted by: Macuistean, Isle of Tiree on 10:48am Sat 28 Apr 07
So N. Stephen Esq is "by far the best dresser of all the party leaders". Is that what he spent the money he fiddled on his expenses? As for the article itself I have found it quicker to stick my fingers down the back of my throat. This is typical of the Unionist tripe we have had during this campaign. I have a prediction. Labour will be thrashed at the next Westminster election. There are a few reasons for this 1) The number of body bags coming back from Iraq. 2) Gordon Brown's handling of the economy. 3) Gordon Brown being the Prime Minister and 4) Labour lies and deceit. The English will then demand independence, the Tory Government will grant this and Alex Salmond will have no need for a referendum. Unfortunately all the "big" numpties like Brown, Browne, Alexander, Reid and Darling will all come north and try to take charge of our independant nation.
Posted by: Alex McG, Portugal on 10:50am Sat 28 Apr 07
Ian, is not the real problem that we have far to many politicians who are lawyers – or at least trained as lawyers, since many seem to head straight from university into politics. In virtually all cases they have no experience of the real world where the rest of us live and where we EARN our keep by our Skills and Labour (work). In the PC world of Labour(politic) & LibDems where they are intent on equal numbers of women in parliament (Bairs babes) proportional representation of ethnic minorities etc. Why not limit Lawyer’s numbers in politics to there ratio in the workforce. Perhaps limit entry into politics to those with at least ten years of successful work experience.
It may be harder to recruit MP’s but we might have a more competent Government.
Posted by: James Brown, Ayr on 10:56am Sat 28 Apr 07
Yesterday Mr McConnell said that Labour will not enter into coalition with anyone after Thursday so the Lib Dem options seem to be narrowing. As for Anne Simpson, she appears to be rehearsing for a job in Hello magazine when the rapidly declining Herald sheds jobs later this year.

Memo to Newsquest/Gannet:: We can see the rot in your Scottish house from the inside. Can you see it from America on the outside?

Memo to Anne Simpson: May the gannet of Minerva descend upon you before the falling of dusk.
Posted by: Neil 9% Growth Party, Glasgow on 11:01am Sat 28 Apr 07
He is making noises about cutting business taxes to improve growth.

Not coincidentally I proposed exactly that & attempted to get it debated at conference repeatedly for 3 years. As a result of this & my support for nuclear & lowering housing costs I was explelled from the party.

He stated on TV that "nuclear is the easy answer" & went on to explain that it must thus be opposed because if it was allowed to work the common voter would never be willing to pay out for windmills.

He, again on TV, accused the Jews of war crimes bombings in Lebanon which killed civilians & by targeting an electricity station in Gaza. The fact that he & the Lib Dems had enthusiasticlayy supported the bombing, primarily directed against civilian cities, of Yugoslavi which included atacks on electricity stations using bombs designed for only that purpose.

It is indeed up to others to say whether this is "honest" or "decent".
Posted by: Jean, Bo'ness on 11:06am Sat 28 Apr 07

Why don't you plonkers and the ones at the Scotsman website get a life
You don't represent the opinions of the average man/woman on the street. Nice, decent, hard working family man, these are words which are alien to your vocabulary. Change - its not too late.
Posted by: tasty macfadden, orkney on 11:12am Sat 28 Apr 07
Mr Steven Nichols claims to have two close friends when everybody knows that politicians don't have any friends close or otherwise. Seems like there's one law for Liberal Democrats and another one for everybody else. Typical.

ps next he'll be claiming he goes on holiday with his close friend, Mrs Kirsty Wark, off Newsnight.
Posted by: Carlo, Fort William on 11:46am Sat 28 Apr 07
The LibDems......each and every one of them a waste of space......bottom feeders with no idea of principles...........

Annabel Goldie and her lot are going to eat them up...........at least with the Tories you have a definitive idea of what your up against...

May 3rd SNP 1, 2, 3
Posted by: Dunedin on 11:47am Sat 28 Apr 07
Anne Simpson interviews Nicol Stephen under the heading " Can the LibDem leader really be as nice as he seems?"

Essence of Herald.
Posted by: Neil 9% Growth Party, Glasgow on 12:36pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Thanks "Jean" who do you represent?

Are you the vulgar wing of the Lib Dems?

My truth of my critism is something you do no & cannot dispute.
Posted by: Iain on 3:57pm Sat 28 Apr 07
He want's to take the negativity out of politics.

Does that mean he's going to stop putting Scotland down and let us have a referendum on independence?
Posted by: Iain on 4:05pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Has someone thrown a bag of flour at him? Though judging by the expression on his face it may have been some space dust (shouldn't mix it with ginger) either that or we should wonder what his other hand is doing. He needs a shave as well.
Posted by: Iain More, Moary on 7:16pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Nicol Stephen is smug and conceited! He is not a nice man! He is a politician for gods sake!
Now Mike Rummbles who I have met is a nice man - but he didn't win the Lib Dems mirror mirror on the wall contest!
I have met Nicol Stephen as well - he spoke down through his nose at me and I am considerably taller than him - so I will not be voting for his party! Nor did he make my juices flow either!
This article is one of the more nauseating published by the Herald!Is Nicol a secret member of the Labour Party by any chance or is Gordon one of his closet friends?
Posted by: bamba, leith on 7:57pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Nichol Steven may give the image of a caring person of reasonable intellect who has the 'modern' attributes for that trade called politics. He has ambition but, if one is to believe stories behind the scenes within the Liberal Democratic party, the political 'village' at Holyrood, and the officials at the Scottish Executive, he does have a tendency to be unable to grasp the bigger picture and is not a 'workhorse' one needs to be, to hold high office. This opinion may appear to be unfair to the lad, but it is one which has been oft said.
Leaving aside the inherrent **** for power within a Liberal Democrat Party in Scotland clearly devoid of real talent, my own doubt of Mr. Stephen is threefold:
a. His objection to the idea of having a single issue referendum on the question of independence. He appears to be almost obsessive about this issue.
b:
His demand for a constitutional convention would be fine, if it were not for the fact that he appears to require that the said convention be set up in his own image. He demands that this body would, under no circumstances, discuss the independence option. Surely any such Convention should explore all options, rather than be restricted to mere tinkering with the 'status quo'. The reason the devolution Convention was a success was down to the fact that anything and everything was discussed, resulting in the historical 'break' from Westminster after a Referendum which was heavily endorsed by the Liberal Democrats.
c.
I really could not see him winning a single argument against the bruisers of Westminster - be they politicians or Whitehall officials. As much as we may think Jack McConnell may not be dynamic or even a person who could be classed a heavyweight, he has shown a bit of ability to fight his corner when dealing with Westminster. Sadly Nichol Stephen is really a lightweight on both the intellectual and political level and our country would be steamrollered into the Westminster line on any argument if, heaven forbid, we had occasion to have Nichol as First Minister!
Posted by: John J, Edinburgh on 9:22am Mon 30 Apr 07
During the leader's debate on TV last night Nicol's expressions, mannerisms and even pauses, reminded me of George Bush.
Posted by: David McNicol on 9:53am Mon 30 Apr 07
Can he not find a proper last name? Nicol McSteven maybe? Or, better still: Steven McNicol. Now there is a name to inspire confidence.
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